Posts by Broken Promises

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Wine and Crackers Tonight?

by sweet pea in

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friends

anyone fancy joining us for some?.

the sun's on its way down and we are celebrating life, family, happiness and the fact that we are free!!!!!!!!!!.

sam, paul, archie & bertie (of the 'skipped the memorial for three years now' class).

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In Australia it’s tonight because it’s already Tuesday afternoon!

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so why dont they cut to the chase at the door???

by oompa in

as in..."hi, my name is soa fraid and i hope you will accept my offer for a free home bible study.

the reason you should accept this free offer is that our leaders, the men who have compiled the material for this study receive direct communication from god, and he speaks to no other religion on earth.

they then write down what god has told them to, and publish it in a zillion languages so that we can teach people what god really meant in his new world translation of the holy scriptures...you may refer to it as the bible.

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dpg, that’s not the point of this thread.

The thread is discussing how the presentation we were taught to give at the doors, was not completely true. And considering that God should be a god of truth, then you’d expect his witnesses to be just as truthful.

I think this is one of those instances where you’d have to be there, to completely understand what we’re talking about.

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The Memorial, what is wrong with it.

by PSacramento in

ok, my issue with the memorial i have put forth in another thread, but allow me to past them here:.

the memorial enfoces on them the power of the gb and of the "annointed" class, it is the total opposite of grace.. where god's grace is given free to all, the memorial is withedl from the majority.. god's grace tells us that no matter what we do, god loves us and if we belive, our salvation is in christ's hands.. the memorial is about the opposite, no matter what you have done, you are not worthy to partake on what was free given to all.. only the annointed can partake, the rest are not deserving.. if that is not a slap in the face of god's gift of grace, i don't know what is.. there they sit, all the "un-annointed", their heads hanging low, nomatter how many hourse they put in, how many loved ones they shunned, how many they have lost to the horrifc "no blood policy", they are not deserving to share in what jesus told all his believers to do.. the last supper was our lord's gift to us so that anytime we do it, we remember him.. when we say grace before our meal and we thank jesus for all his has done, for his sacrifice, we are partaking of his blood and body.. but even here the wt ignores jesus's commands and relegates him to the back with the rest.. horrific....

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Interesting points, thanks for posting this!

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How's this for Progress?

by cantleave in

last year i gave the memorial talk, this year for the first time in my entire life i won't even be going.. i guess that missing the memorial will definitely put us on the elder's radar, so i am expecting the elders to be concerned an interrogation.

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i was going to use the excuse that i will be in a different part of country, but i won't be and i will be at work with at least 3 other jw's in a neighbouring congregation.. .

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It’s been 10 years for me. The first time you miss the Memorial is the hardest, especially if you were born into the JWs. But the strange feeling you have of not being at the Memorial will get easier as time goes on, trust me on that.

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What's your plans on the JW Memorial night?

by dissed in

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friends

for the last 13 years, we haven't attended and didn't even care about it.

but since we became card carrying members of jwn in september, we have an interest in what are friends here on jwn are doing.. for us?

we will be watching 'dancing with the stars'.

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This will be the 10 th memorial I’ve missed since I left the witnesses.

The witnesses were too lazy to come to my door. I found my invite in the letter box!!

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JW's say Worldly People are Better Off DEAD

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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friends

jehovah's witnesses and the "better off dead" doctrine.

for decades the official jw teaching was that "worldly people" (non-jws) would be "better off dead" because "the wages sin pays is death" and once you have died, you have paid for your sins, so then jehovah is free to resurrect you (as long as you had not committed the "unforgivable sin").. whereas, if you had not died and had remained a worldly "unbeliever" when armageddon arrived, jehovah would have destroyed you and doomed you to everlasting destruction in gehenna.. this "better off dead" doctrine never did make any sense to me.

why would jehovah resurrect you if you died the day before armageddon, but if you stayed alive until the next day you would be destroyed and doomed forever to the lake of fire?

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WTWizard,

Where do you get the idea that witnesses let their children die just so they can be in the resurrection?

Secondly, the answer to your theory about the lack of necessity to do “field circus” as you call it is not logical by witness teachings, because of the scripture they use which talks about a warning work and the “bloodguilt” which would result if the person knew of a calamity befalling others and he did not warn them.

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Who knew trying to pick a Wedding card for a Witness couple could p#ss me off so bad

by Witness 007 in

this witness kid i knew for years is getting married so even though i wasn't invited i wanted to give him a card and a couple hundred bucks....then i go to the store, lots of cards...."weddings" section is empty!

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If someone gave me a couple hundred bucks for a wedding present they could wrap it up in newspaper for all I cared!!!

Don’t worry about it too much – how many people go over their wedding cards after the first year?

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Sixscreensofthewatchtower

by Piercingtheveil81 in

jw
friends

i was just reading an email from rick fearon about the conference call this saturday.

i'm starting to think that some things they say are a bunch of crap.

they seem too stuck in the past and can;t seem to let go.

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I had a look at the Six Screens website and found it rather creepy-looking, so I can only imagine how it would look to an active JW!!

Unfortunately some ex-JWs think they have to sensationalise their findings, but I think it detracts from the message they are trying to give. When I was looking for answers, the websites that gave me the most help were ones like Freeminds, which give information in a factual and straight forward way, without drama or hype.

I think that’s also why Crisis of Conscience resonates with so many, because Ray Franz writes in a rational manner without trying to tug at our emotions. He could easily have made his book to be all about him, acting like a victim, but instead, he sticks to the facts.

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